Recently I recorded my 6th episode of the Gemba Academy Podcast with host Ron Pereira when we were together in person at the Association for Manufacturing Excellence (AME) 2022 conference in Dallas. In this episode, we focus our discussion on how leaders and learners can navigate the inherent struggle that comes with learning, while at the same time achieving the needed business goals.
We recorded this episode just one day before I took to the main stage at AME to lead a “fireside” chat conversation with General Electric (GE) CEO Larry Culp. In our chat we discussed Larry’s own inherent struggles in learning to lead as well as his passion for lean and continuous improvement, and why he found my comments about hoshin karni (strategy deployment) in an internal GE podcast (which you can listen to here) so interesting.
(This GE podcast episode inspired Larry Culp to not only read my award-winning book Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn, but recommend it to all employees at GE as a “must read” book.)
You can also listen to my Lean Blog podcast discussion with Mark Graban where we reflect on Larry Culp’s keynote and my fireside chat with him…and learn what Larry said were the things he personally had to do to navigate the struggle that comes with learning and leading.
This topic of “struggle” in learning has been on my mind a lot over the past few years as I’ve helped leaders and change practitioners understand how we need to get comfortable with people not having “the answer” right away….and to recognize that there is struggle too in learning new leadership behaviors.
Listen to the Gemba Academy Episode
Take a listen to my conversation with Ron via the link below. It’s always a high-energy dynamic interaction when Ron and I are together and this latest recording is no exception.
I hope you enjoy the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it!
Listen now on the Gemba Academy website or on your favorite podcast platform.
Highlights from this Gemba Academy Podcast episode:
- About Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn book (1:55)
- Katie’s background (3:54)
- The quote that Katie likes (4:43)
- What we should be doing as it relates to learning (5:24)
- The power of creating structure (8:36)
- Dealing with obstacles (11:06)
- Shifting what success looks like (16:34)
- What the next three to five years look like in the lean world (15:41)
- How lean will help companies navigate uncertain times (17:15)
- Her upcoming trip to Japan (19:41)
My Additional Podcast Episodes with Gemba Academy:
- GA Podcast #331: Leading and Learning at Toyota
- GA Podcast #297: The Importance of Hansei and Revitalization
- GA Podcast #281: Building an Online Community of Practice with Katie Anderson and Karyn Ross
- GA Podcast #242: How to Leverage Different Lean Experiences
- GA Podcast # 173: How to Use A3 Thinking with Katie Anderson
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